In the US, Gaza is a different war (dumb US keept ignorante and racist!)

The images of two women on the front page of an edition of The Washington Post last week illustrates how mainstream US media has been reporting Israel’s war on Gaza.

On the left was a Palestinian mother who had lost five children. On the right was a nearly equally sized picture of an Israeli woman who was distressed by the fighting, according to the caption.

As the Palestinian woman cradled the dead body of one child, another infant son, his face blackened and disfigured with bruises, cried beside her.

The Israeli woman did not appear to be wounded in any way but also wept.

Arab frustration

To understand the frustration often felt in the Arab world over US media coverage, one only needs to imagine the same front page had the situation been reversed.

If an Israeli woman had lost five daughters in a Palestinian attack, would The Washington Post run an equally sized photograph of a relatively unharmed Palestinian woman, who was merely distraught over Israeli missile fire?

When the front page photographs of the two women were published on December 30, over 350 Palestinians had reportedly been killed compared to just four Israelis.

What if 350 Israelis had been killed and only four Palestinians – would the newspaper have run the stories side by side as if equal in news value?


Like many major news organisations in the US, The Washington Post has chosen to cover the conflict from a perspective that reflects the US government’s relationship with Israel. This means prioritising Israel’s version of events while underplaying the views of Palestinian groups.

For example, the newspaper’s lead article on Tuesday, which was published above the mothers’ photographs, quotes Israeli military and civilian sources nine times before quoting a single Palestinian. The first seven paragraphs explain Israel’s military strategy. The ninth paragraph describes the anxiety among Israelis, spending evenings in bomb shelters. Ordinary Palestinians, who generally have no access to bomb shelters, do not make an appearance until the 23rd paragraph.

To balance this top story, The Washington Post published another article on the bottom half of the front page about the Palestinian mother and her children. But would the paper have ever considered balancing a story about a massive attack on Israelis with an in-depth lead piece on the strategy of Palestinian militants?

Context stripped

Major US television channels also adopted the equal time approach, despite the reality that Palestinian casualties exceeded Israeli ones by a hundred fold. However, such comparisons were rare because the scripts read by American correspondents often excluded the overall Palestinian death count.

By stripping the context, American viewers may have easily assumed a level playing field, rather than a case of disproportionate force.

Take the opening lines of a report filed by NBC’s Martin Fletcher on December 30: “In Gaza two little girls were taking out the rubbish and killed by an Israeli rocket – while in Israel, a woman had been driving home and was killed by a Hamas rocket. No let up today on either side on the fourth day of this battle.”

Omitted from the report was the overall Palestinian death toll, dropped continuously in subsequent reports filed by NBC correspondents over the next several days.

When number of deaths did appear – sometimes as a graphic at the bottom of the screen – it was identified as the number of “people killed” rather than being attributed specifically to Palestinians.

No wonder the overwhelmingly asymmetrical bombardment of Gaza has been framed vaguely as “rising tensions in the Middle East” by news anchors.

With the lack of context, the power dynamic on the ground becomes unclear.

ABC news, for example, regularly introduced events in Gaza as “Mideast Violence”. And Like NBC, reporters excluded the Palestinian death toll.

On December 31, when Palestinian deaths stood at almost 400, ABC correspondent Simon McGergor-Wood began a video package by describing damage to an Israeli school by Hamas rockets.

The reporter’s script can be paraphrased as follows: Israel wanted a sustainable ceasefire; Israel needed to prevent Hamas from rearming; Hamas targets were hit; Israel was sending in aid and letting the injured out; Israel was doing “everything they can to alleviate the humanitarian crisis”. And with that McGregor-Wood signed off.

Palestinian perspective missing

There was no parallel telling of the Palestinian perspective, and no mention of any damages to Palestinian lives, although news agencies that day had reported five Palestinians dead.

For the ABC correspondent, it seemed the Palestinian deaths contained less news value than damage to Israeli buildings. His narration of events, meanwhile, amounted to no less than a parroting of the official Israeli line.

In fact, the Israeli government view typically went unchallenged on major US networks.

The US media has been accused of prioritising Israel’s version of events [EPA]
Interviews with Israeli spokesmen and ambassadors were not juxtaposed with the voices of Palestinian leaders. Prominent American news anchors frequently adopted the Israeli viewpoint. In talk show discussions, instead of debating events on the ground, the pundits often reinforced each other’s views.

Such an episode occurred on a December 30 broadcast of the MSNBC show, Morning Joe, during which host Joe Scarborough repeatedly insisted that Israel should not be judged.

Israel was defending itself just as the US had done throughout history. “How many people did we kill in Germany?” Scarborough posed.

The blame rested on the Palestinians, he concluded, connecting the Gaza attacks to the Camp David negotiations of 2000. “They gave the Palestinians everything they could ask for, and they walked away from the table,” he said repeatedly.

Although this view was challenged once by Zbigniew Brzezinski, a former US official, who appeared briefly on the show, subsequent guests agreed incessantly with Scarborough’s characterisation of the Palestinians as negligent, if not criminal in nature.

According to guest Dan Bartlett, a former White House counsel, the Palestinian leadership had made it “very clear” that they were uninterested in peace talks.

Another guest, NBC anchor David Gregory, began by noting that Yasser Arafat, the late Palestinian president, “could not be trusted”, according to Bill Clinton, the former US president.

Gregory then added that Hamas had “undercut the peace process” and actually welcomed the attacks.

“The reality is that Hamas wanted this, they didn’t want the ceasefire,” he said.

Columnist Margaret Carlson also joined the show, agreeing in principal that Hamas should be “crushed” but voicing concern over the cost of such action.

Thus the debate was not whether Israel was justified, but rather what Israel should do next. The Palestinian human tragedy received little to no attention.

Victim’s perspective

Arab audiences saw a different picture altogether. Rather than mulling Israel’s dilemma, the Arab news networks captured the air assault in chilling detail from the perspective of its victims. The divide in coverage was staggering.

For US networks, the bombing of Gaza has largely been limited to two-minute video packages or five minute talk show segments. This has usually meant a few snippets of jumbled video: explosions from a distance and a momentary glance at victims; barely enough time to remember a face, let alone a personality. Victims were rarely interviewed.

The availability of time and space, American broadcast executives might argue, were mitigating factors.

On MSNBC for example, Gaza competed for air time last week with stories about the economy, such as a hike in liquor sales, or celebrity news, such as speculation over the publishing of photographs of Sarah Palin’s new grandchild.

Most US networks have reported exclusively from Israel
On Arab TV, however, Gaza has been the only story.

For hours on end, live images from the streets of Gaza are beamed into Arab households.

Unlike the correspondents from ABC and NBC, who have filed their reports exclusively from Israeli cities, Arab crews are inside Gaza, with many correspondents native Gazans themselves.

The images they capture are often broadcast unedited, and over the last week, a grizzly news gathering routine has been established.

The cycle begins with rooftop-mounted cameras, capturing the air raids live. After moments of quiet, thunderous bombing commences and plumes of smoke rise over the skyline. Then, anguish on the streets. Panicked civilians run for cover as ambulances careen through narrow alleys. Rescue workers hurriedly pick through the rubble, often pulling out mangled bodies. Fathers with tears of rage hold dead children up to the cameras, vowing revenge. The wounded are carried out in stretchers, gushing with blood.

Later, local journalists visit the hospitals and more gruesome images, more dead children are broadcast. Doctors wrap up the tiny bodies and carry them into overflowing morgues. The survivors speak to reporters. Their distraught voices are heard around the region; the outflow of misery and destruction is constant.

Palestinian voices

The coverage extends beyond Gaza. Unlike the US networks, which are often limited to one or two correspondents in Israel, major Arab television channels maintain correspondents and bureaus throughout the region. As angry protests take place on a near daily basis, the crews are there to capture the action live.

Even in Israel, Arab reporters are employed, and Israeli politicians are regularly interviewed. But so are members of Hamas and the other Palestinian factions.

The inclusion of Palestinian voices is not unique to Arab media. On a number of international broadcasters, including BBC World and CNN International, Palestinian leaders and Gazans in particular are regularly heard. And the Palestinian death toll has been provided every day, in most broadcasts and by most correspondents on the ground. Reports are also filed from Arab capitals.

On some level, the relatively small American broadcasting output can be attributed to a general trend in downsizing foreign reporting. But had a bloodbath on this scale happened in Israel, would the networks not have sent in reinforcements?

For now, the Israeli viewpoint seems slated to continue to dominate Gaza coverage. The latest narrative comes from the White House, which has called for a “durable” ceasefire, preventing Hamas terrorists from launching more rockets.

Naturally the soundbites are parroted by US broadcasters throughout the day and then reinforced by pundits, fearing the dangerous Hamas.

Arab channels, however, see a different outcome. Many have begun referring to Hamas, once controversial, as simply “the Palestinian resistance”.

While American analysts map out Israel’s strategy, Arab broadcasters are drawing their own maps, plotting the expanding range of Hamas rockets, and predicting a strengthened hand for opposition to Israel, rather than a weakened one.

Ref: Al Jazeera

Habib Battah is a freelance journalist and media analyst based in Beirut and New York.

Also read “7 myths about Gaza”

16 Responses

  1. The main point totally ignored in this subjective article is that Gaza is totaly controlled by a radical Islamic group called Hamas, this group is declared a terror organization by US and EU.

    Taking part in past fighting there I can testify that Hamas terrorists use innocent civilians as human shield, they have a big bunker under the hospital in Gaza and position main headquarters where there is a high concentration of civilians ( eg. UN schools ).
    Having military bases and potential military targets positioned this way will Obviously result high innocent civilian casualties when attacked, and this is exactly what it is for, killing innocent people results international pressure on Israel and this is what the Iranian driven terror group hamas counts on.

    I would even go further and say that I have personally withness a Hamas terrorist taking a small child as a human shield, obviously we didn’t fire at him.
    Having the above said, this article is exactly what this terrorists group wants.
    Personally, I really feel petty for innocent civilian getting killed, however, Israel was trying to avoid that for 8 years during which multiple cities were bombarded with Hamas missiles, I just wonder what would have happened if the US was bombarded even for a single day.

    • Oh we all know what happend when US got “bomd”. They came up with false evidence and invaded another sovereign country = 1 milion people dead!

      That´s the american way. Lies, murder, aggression and capitalism – hand in hand and not suprisingly that is also the Israeli way. Hand in hand in blood of the Other you scream and cry “victimhood” and “democracy” and “peace”.

      :a

    • No, the MAIN point here is that Israel know nothing else than AGGRESSION. Israel is an ethnocracy state that has a brillantly working APARTHEID system in place. Israel violates daily human rights and international law. That is the main point, don´t try to avoid it. This is Israel.

      Now, yes Hamas is islamic (Israel is zionistic). Hamas is also the elected BODY of Gaza just as Israel year after year have voted for jewish terrorists into the goverment (Sharon beeing a massmurder must be the best example of the hateful Israel). Palestina is under occupation and daily denied their rights by Israel, you know this right? (as Indoctrination is a part of israeli day of life)

      Under the 8 years of “terror” in southern Israel can you tell me how the “peace” situation has been in Gaza? How many people have died on both sides? Aso, plz do enlighten me on this so that we can call terror for what it really is ISRAEL.

      And this relentless israeli propaganda of civlians beeing used -how reliving it must be for you. “No you didn´t kill anyone really someone eles did that”… Israel have just bombed and killed 40 people. Human beeings taking coverage in a SCHOOL. You beeing sorry is fake…

      This is israeli banality which is repeated again and again. What happend with the UN building in Lebanon? What about the american warship Cole? You want more examples?

      Israel is a country build on fear and keept going by fear!
      Militarism is in your blood.
      Every israeli profit from the colonalisation but your heart is getting sicker by day.

      If you are an israeli solider then you should be ashamed!
      But shame does not attach to you and your people!
      No even when you are committing massacres – all you have is “David” perspectives, rights and blame. Never the truth – that you for the last 60 wish to ethnically cleanse the whole area and then some of the native population.

      I feel sorry for you honestly!

      : a

  2. 1. Hamas is recognized as a Terror organization by most of the west world, not only by the US and Israel
    2. you may believe me or not but I have personally witnessed a Hamas terrorist using a small boy as a human shield.
    3. I don’t think that Israel or any other country could tolerate 8 years of continues bombardment of their cities.
    4. if this would have happened to any of the Arab dictatorships ( Egypt, Sirya, Iraq, … ) the whole city would have been destroyed, as an example, on the beginning of Iran Iraq war, Iranians were trying to root terror activity in one of the Iraqi cities near the border with Iran ( same as they have done in Lebanon/Hezbollah and same as they are trying to do with Gaza/Hamas ), Sadams reaction was to use chemical weapons to destroy the whole city ( 130,000 civilians ).
    Another example, the 1st Palestinian uprising was started at Gaza in Israel, and, in Rafha in Egypt, In Israel it kept on going for years and on Egypt it has ended on the same day it has started, you probably ask why, well, this is because on the Egyptian side there were ~100 casualties and on the Israeli side there were none.
    On the 80s there was a Palestinian uprising at Jordan, The army has suppressed this uprising using armoured vehicles firing live rounds at the innocent protestors.
    Sirya is full of similar examples.

    5. Iran is driving an Islamic revolution and this just a part of it, all the non radical arab leaders are afraid from Iran and this is why they are supporting Israel indirectly with it’s way.

    When Radical Islamists are not fighting with Israel they are fighting each other ( Shia and Sunni )

    This is a cultural conflict between the Islam and the west and not a war between the Palestinian and Israelis.

    • You responses is typical and aligns to you government relentless propaganda rhetoric.
      It´s as all of you are blind of fear and only can reproduce hatred, because that is what
      you do. Let me explain how,

      1. Hamas is recognized as a Terror organization by most of the west world, not only by the US and Israel
      This is a great example of “Ad nauseam” – This argument approach uses tireless repetition of an idea.

      “Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization.”
      Hamas is bad we are good. Hamas is bad we are good.Hamas is bad we are good.Hamas is bad we are good.Hamas is bad we are good.

      Yes they are a terror organization. But they are more than that even if you don’t like it. AND they have the right under International law to resist an occupation and Palestine are under occupation. Or do you denie that?!

      Israel have effectivly (congratulations) stangled all moderate Palestine talks of a future. You talk “peace” loud but everday you expand your occupation by steal more land, water and demolish houses. Do you denie that?

      Please read the SASSON REPORT!!
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasson_Report

      HAMAS won a DEMOCRATIC ELECTION! Accept that! if palestines are stupid for voting for HAMAS then tell me what the
      israelis are for voting in so many JEWISH TERRORIST into their goverment during all these years! SHARON, the mass murder
      of Beirut, beeing the latest example. By your alienation ALL ISRAELIS support TERRORIST and therefor are not INNOCENT
      but actually WARMONGERS! Oh, no wonder why the only thing you know is aggression…

      “Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization. Hamas is a terror organization.”
      So was Arafat, Sinn Fein and ANC. Oh I forgot and so was IRGUN and STERN aswell! (I like this name calling game)

      USA is the ONLY country in the world that has been convicted of STATE TERRORISM. And we all know how they have supported AL QUIDA and
      we all know about Israels support of HAMAS back in the days. What goes around comes around…

      Oh, did you know that USA just recently lifted the TERRORIST BAN on ANC?! After what, 14 years of democracy in South Africa!
      Is´t that hilarious!

      2. you may believe me or not but I have personally witnessed a Hamas terrorist using a small boy as a human shield.

      Funny, your type of argument “hamas uses the people as human shield” was the first COUNTER ARGUMENT that Israel have
      issued as the reason why they didn´t go in and help those children too weak to stand up in bombed out houses in Gaza. A total
      violation of International Law. Just another one, I might add!

      This argument is getting tiresome and such a “excuse” of Israeli massacre. I believe that HAMAS sometimes uses civilian and that
      is never excusable! And hardly a “all around excuse for israelis to murder”.
      But I am confused, since when did israeli soldiers care about not killing civilians? Less alone Palestinian civilians?
      Have you seen the death ratio not only for Gaza but overall?

      Now, as an Israeli solider seeing how the BAD BAD TERRORIST HAMAS were fighting – have you seen anything from your side
      that is equally bad? Did you for example shoot or see somebody shoot a kid in the West bank? Did you harras some Palestinians
      in checkpoints or maybe demolish/bomb a house? Maybe you tortured a Palestinian civilian?

      These are all facts and I have personally witnessed when Israeli soldiers have humiliated and harassed civilians. And I am
      glad that I haven´t seen any of those numerous accounts when Israeli soldiers have killed civilians!

      3) I don’t think that Israel or any other country could tolerate 8 years of continues bombardment of their cities.

      Your argument is totally IRRELEVANT!
      ANY OTHER country (except USA) 2009 would not occupy and colonialis another people and nation which ISRAEL IS DOING!
      And because of that there are no HANDMADE rockets landing on European soil.

      This argument is a typical OVERSIMPLIFICATION PROPAGANDA argument where the context, history and reality is not
      accounted for. During these 8 years, what have Israel done? How many Palestinians/Israelis have died? How many settlers
      have moved into the West Bank?

      Do you believe in cause and action? Or do you believe that some people are just genetically/biologically evil and do evil
      things like bombing a Kindergarten in Sderot or suicide bombing in Tel Aviv because they just hate Israelis out of no reason?

      And just how do you think that a TOTAL siege (except of what can be brought in from tunnels) effects a people physically,
      mentally and morally? At least those in southern Israel have bomb shelters, food, water and a possibility to travel around.
      What are the logical, legal, humanitarian and peace rationality behind that action?

      Oh, and just for the record, as a military, explain to me what the similarities/difference are between CRUDE HANDMADE ROCKETS
      and 1000 KILO HIGH-TECH US BOMBS?

      a

    • continuing…

      4. if this would have happened to any of the Arab dictatorships ( Egypt, Sirya, Iraq, … ) the whole city would have been destroyed, as an example, on the beginning of Iran Iraq war, Iranians were trying to root terror activity in one of the Iraqi cities near the border with Iran ( same as they have done in Lebanon/Hezbollah and same as they are trying to do with Gaza/Hamas ), Saddams reaction was to use chemical weapons to destroy the whole city ( 130,000 civilians ).

      This is a great TRANSFER technique. Let´s not talk about israeli actions but about ARABIC actions.
      These actions have their context, their history and their “murderous” men. You association try to
      make any/all ARABS look murderous while you kill in numbers is sad, very sad.

      Exactly how are you really qualified to talk about Arabic dictatorship actions as if they are all static?
      Is it your israeli education that provides you with enough facts?

      What city is that which Saddam used chemical weapons on?

      All your talk about OTHER COUNTRIES is SCAPEGOATING.
      Who cares what happened or didn´t happen in Egypt (that is IRRELEVANT) when the oppression of Palestinians
      are in ISRAEL. It makes your killing, oppression, colonizations not less!

      Oh, by the way, 1000 Palestinians got killed by Israeli forces during the first intifada so plz tell me how you
      math works when you say that “on the Israeli side there were none”.

      5. Iran is driving an Islamic revolution and this just a part of it, all the non radical arab leaders are afraid from Iran and this is why they are supporting Israel indirectly with it’s way.

      Irans is regional power which I think is great! They are as you say a threat, formost to those corrupt Arabic regimes
      that are funded by AMERICANS. The Arabic people in general have no problem with Iran, but with ISRAEL´s killing and
      violation towards their brothers and sisters, the palestinians.

      Where are radical Islamic fighting each other? In Iraq? Wonder why? Could it have anything to do with USA illegal invasion
      and theft of the oil resources? USA is guilty of having divided up Iraq into ethnic federals – what do you think that creates?

      This is NOT a culture war btw ISLAM and THE WEST!
      Even if you would like it to be that.

      Again, ISRAEL IS OCCUPYING PALESTINE!
      ISRAEL IS VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS AND INTERNATIONAL LAW on a daily basis.
      ISRAEL IS BUILDING ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST BANK.
      ISRAEL HAS PUT AN ILLEGAL SIEGE ON GAZA.
      ISRAEL HAS AN APARTHEID SYSTEM IN PLACE.
      ISRAEL IS A “THIN” DEMOCRACY AND REGULARLY DISCRIMINATE THE ISRAELI-PALESTINANS.
      and the list goes on and on…

      Where is the “culture conflict” here btw Islam/Christianity (west)?
      This is a CONFLICT OF TERRITORY where one party with the fifth most powerful
      army in the world keeps a nation under violent control and denie them their rights!
      Guess who is who!

      ISRAEL IS A COUNTRY BUILD ON THE ZIONISTIC IDEOLOGY.
      THIS RACIST DOCTRINE IS EMBEDDED INTO THE SOCICETY AND WILL NOT REST
      UNTIL ALL PALESTINANS ARE EITHER DEAD, “TRANSFERED” OR SLAVES.

      Your propaganda techinques don´t work to justify or hail Israel.
      On the contrary, you have effectivly avoided the core of the matter – israels actions!
      After 60 years and 41 years of occupation people are tired of your lies and trics.

      Why aren´t you?

      a

  3. – I will start by saying that I would be a hypocrite if I would say that in these days Arabs in Israel are not discriminated, however, few years ago, in the era of the Oslo agreement and the peace treaty with Jordan the situation was better, much better.
    – As in the Arab world, there are extremists in Israel as-well, I don’t agree with their opinions and ideas.
    – In contrast to most ( but not all ) of the middle eastern countries Israel is a democracy, such that every social group can have a proper party representing it in the government, the voting percentages of Israeli Arabs is ~15% resulting non proportional presentation of the Israeli Arab community in the Government.
    – Israel is the only country where cabinet members can say things against the country, visit enemy states ( such as sirya ) and get along with it w/o being thrown to jail, can you imagine someone on the Iranian cabinet saying Iran should have a peace agreement with Israel? The poor guy would get beheaded for that.
    – And what do U think of the huge social differences in Saudi Arabia? Those who have oil and are related to the ruling family live like kings while the rest of the community is sleeping in tents.
    – Israeli Arabs are much less discriminated then Arabs in their own Arab countries, Egypt cannot tell the exact amount of it’s citizens, Sunni majority is controlling a huge Shia minority in Sirya.
    – I have used to work with Israeli Arabs in the Israeli software industry I don’t have any predigests as far as for moderate non extremist Muslims, I think though that those who are extreme cause most of the Israeli population to be afraid of the Israeli Arab community.

    To put it short, only a global peace agreement in the middle east will put an end to discrimination and blood shade, and for that radical Islam and terrorism in the region should be suppressed.
    I hope that one day all of us will live in peace together.

    • – I will start by saying that I would be a hypocrite if I would say that in these days Arabs in Israel are not discriminated, however, few years ago, in the era of the Oslo agreement and the peace treaty with Jordan the situation was better, much better.

      Well there you go! Good finally a break through!
      Tell me, what have happened since the OSLO agreement in the West Bank that has made the situation worse?

      – As in the Arab world, there are extremists in Israel as-well, I don’t agree with their opinions and ideas.

      As in the whole world there are extremists!
      The more interesting thing is what do YOU do to fight extremists on your side since you are so good at pointing
      out the Others? Do you watch silently when settlers harras and spread their hatred in Hebron?

      – In contrast to most ( but not all ) of the middle eastern countries Israel is a democracy, such that every social group can have a proper party representing it in the government, the voting percentages of Israeli Arabs is ~15% resulting non proportional presentation of the Israeli Arab community in the Government.

      What does democracy mean to you?
      Israel has a “THIN/WEAK” democracy and the constant discrimination of the Israeli Arabs is a fact!
      Do you know how in appropriates land? How is it now with weddings/funerals and divorces? There you
      indeed have something in common with Iran (Theocracy)

      Tell me how this “non proportional presentation of the Israeli Arab community in the Government”
      looks like and why then there is a instituationalized discrimation of Israeli Arabs.

      Isn´t Lebanon also a democracy? They vote and Lebanon is in the Middle East.

      – Israel is the only country where cabinet members can say things against the country, visit enemy states ( such as sirya ) and get along with it w/o being thrown to jail, can you imagine someone on the Iranian cabinet saying Iran should have a peace agreement with Israel? The poor guy would get beheaded for that.

      Israel is the only country where parliaments talk openly about “transferring” people as they were dirt! Did that cabinet member visit Syria for an vacation or was it to engage in peace talks? Big difference you see?

      Oh, here we go again, telling how “Arabs” would react and conduct their biznez. Stick to what you know, Israel, and
      stop scapegoating to the “bad bad Arabs” making you LOOK GOOD in contrast.

      – And what do U think of the huge social differences in Saudi Arabia? Those who have oil and are related to the ruling family live like kings while the rest of the community is sleeping in tents.

      Since when do you care about that? That is another topic in another context! Again, your associations and “red herring” (presenting irrelvant issue) is boring…

      – Israeli Arabs are much less discriminated then Arabs in their own Arab countries, Egypt cannot tell the exact amount of it’s citizens, Sunni majority is controlling a huge Shia minority in Sirya.

      Oh, and this makes Israeli discrimination and racist action acceptable? I thought they were barbaric dictators and that you where the democratic light. FOCUS ON YOUR OWN SHIT, YOUR OWN ILLEGAL TREATMENT!

      Isarel is one of the most racist countires in the world, looking around will not make that go away!

      Actually you make me laugh – ” Egypt cannot tell the exact amount of it’s citizens”… So what? *ahaha* And “Sunni majority is controlling a huge Shia minority in Sirya.” And what??? What is your point more than TRANSFER negative projections onto arab countries? Actually, you are failing in that aswell!

      – I have used to work with Israeli Arabs in the Israeli software industry I don’t have any predigests as far as for moderate non extremist Muslims, I think though that those who are extreme cause most of the Israeli population to be afraid of the Israeli Arab community.

      Look that´s nice. How much did you get in salary and how much less did they get?

      I think that israeli-arabs are as sick and tired of Israeli discrimination and hatred and that they have every right to not like you or resist you. If you feel threatened by that, why do you NEVER ask why they hate you? Why the resist you? Why they fight?

      The answer is simple – the truth is that Israel is a myth. You are not all what you think you are. Instead all of it citizen are a part of an ETNOCRACY (“jewish character) that has put an apartheid system in place to strangle another nation. That is totally illegal! It makes all of you complicit to a slow GENOCIDE and this in a country that have commericalized and internalised their own SHOAH! Double moral? No, just Israeli banality. You are both “victims” of your own ideology (zionism) and offenders by the system of racism and colonialism.

      Israel is the root to all violence!
      Israel brakes human rights and international law daily, killing innocent human beings that happens to be there before you.
      This makes YOU look bad and that´s why you try so hard to make “all/any” arab look worse. That´s why you don´t include context, history and reality into your arguments. That´s why you always make sure to position HAMAS as terrorist and yourself as peace seeking.

      To put it short, only a global peace agreement in the middle east will put an end to discrimination and blood shade, and for that radical Islam and terrorism in the region should be suppressed.
      I hope that one day all of us will live in peace together.

      To put it BLUNT – how can it be any peace until PALESTINE exist! Then you have to succed in killing all palestinans and
      half of the Arabic population world wide! Are you up for it?

      What needs to be suppressed is ISRAELI SHOAH POLITICS!
      Israel have to be forced to FOLLOW international law and obey the human rights!!!

      With your “blame blame” attitude there will be no peace!
      But with BRILLANT israelis like this one there might be…

      The time of the righteous
      http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054158.html

      a

    • – I will start by saying that I would be a hypocrite if I would say that in these days Arabs in Israel are not discriminated, however, few years ago, in the era of the Oslo agreement and the peace treaty with Jordan the situation was better, much better.

      Well there you go! Good finally a break through!
      Tell me, what have happened since the OSLO agreement in the West Bank that has made the situation worse?

      – As in the Arab world, there are extremists in Israel as-well, I don’t agree with their opinions and ideas.

      As in the whole world there are extremists!
      The more interesting thing is what do YOU do to fight extremists on your side since you are so good at pointing
      out the Others? Do you watch silently when settlers harras and spread their hatred in Hebron?

      – In contrast to most ( but not all ) of the middle eastern countries Israel is a democracy, such that every social group can have a proper party representing it in the government, the voting percentages of Israeli Arabs is ~15% resulting non proportional presentation of the Israeli Arab community in the Government.

      What does democracy mean to you?
      Israel has a “THIN/WEAK” democracy and the constant discrimination of the Israeli Arabs is a fact!
      Do you know how in appropriates land? How is it now with weddings/funerals and divorces? There you
      indeed have something in common with Iran (Theocracy)

      Tell me how this “non proportional presentation of the Israeli Arab community in the Government”
      looks like and why then there is a instituationalized discrimation of Israeli Arabs.

      Isn´t Lebanon also a democracy? They vote and Lebanon is in the Middle East.

      – Israel is the only country where cabinet members can say things against the country, visit enemy states ( such as sirya ) and get along with it w/o being thrown to jail, can you imagine someone on the Iranian cabinet saying Iran should have a peace agreement with Israel? The poor guy would get beheaded for that.

      Israel is the only country where parliaments talk openly about “transferring” people as they were dirt! Did that cabinet member visit Syria for an vacation or was it to engage in peace talks? Big difference you see?

      Oh, here we go again, telling how “Arabs” would react and conduct their biznez. Stick to what you know, Israel, and
      stop scapegoating to the “bad bad Arabs” making you LOOK GOOD in contrast.

      – And what do U think of the huge social differences in Saudi Arabia? Those who have oil and are related to the ruling family live like kings while the rest of the community is sleeping in tents.

      Since when do you care about that? That is another topic in another context! Again, your associations and “red herring” (presenting irrelvant issue) is boring…

      – Israeli Arabs are much less discriminated then Arabs in their own Arab countries, Egypt cannot tell the exact amount of it’s citizens, Sunni majority is controlling a huge Shia minority in Sirya.

      Oh, and this makes Israeli discrimination and racist action acceptable? I thought they were barbaric dictators and that you where the democratic light. FOCUS ON YOUR OWN SHIT, YOUR OWN ILLEGAL TREATMENT!

      Isarel is one of the most racist countires in the world, looking around will not make that go away!

      Actually you make me laugh – ” Egypt cannot tell the exact amount of it’s citizens”… So what? *ahaha* And “Sunni majority is controlling a huge Shia minority in Sirya.” And what??? What is your point more than TRANSFER negative projections onto arab countries? Actually, you are failing in that aswell!

      – I have used to work with Israeli Arabs in the Israeli software industry I don’t have any predigests as far as for moderate non extremist Muslims, I think though that those who are extreme cause most of the Israeli population to be afraid of the Israeli Arab community.

      Look that´s nice. How much did you get in salary and how much less did they get?

      I think that israeli-arabs are as sick and tired of Israeli discrimination and hatred and that they have every right to not like you or resist you. If you feel threatened by that, why do you NEVER ask why they hate you? Why the resist you? Why they fight?

      The answer is simple – the truth is that Israel is a myth. You are not all what you think you are. Instead all of it citizen are a part of an ETNOCRACY (“jewish character) that has put an apartheid system in place to strangle another nation. That is totally illegal! It makes all of you complicit to a slow GENOCIDE and this in a country that have commericalized and internalised their own SHOAH! Double moral? No, just Israeli banality. You are both “victims” of your own ideology (zionism) and offenders by the system of racism and colonialism.

      Israel is the root to all violence!
      Israel brakes human rights and international law daily, killing innocent human beings that happens to be there before you.
      This makes YOU look bad and that´s why you try so hard to make “all/any” arab look worse. That´s why you don´t include context, history and reality into your arguments. That´s why you always make sure to position HAMAS as terrorist and yourself as peace seeking.

      To put it short, only a global peace agreement in the middle east will put an end to discrimination and blood shade, and for that radical Islam and terrorism in the region should be suppressed.
      I hope that one day all of us will live in peace together.

      To put it BLUNT – how can it be any peace until PALESTINE exist! Then you have to succed in killing all palestinans and
      half of the Arabic population world wide! Are you up for it?

      What needs to be suppressed is ISRAELI SHOAH POLITICS!
      Israel have to be forced to FOLLOW international law and obey the human rights!!!

      With your “blame blame” attitude there will be no peace!
      But with BRILLANT israelis like this one there might be…

      The time of the righteous
      http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1054158.html

      a

  4. APARTHEID you say, look around you

  5. You are talking about hatred, I don’t hate Palestinians nor are the Israelis I am acquainted with, I feel petty for the Palestinians being held hostage by Hamas and I wish for peace in the region, In contrast, your response is full with Hatred and anger.
    You are presenting that as if Israelis are killing innocent Palestinian civilians for fun, well, yes Palestinians are getting killed though the main cause for that is Hamas using them as human shields, can you imagine someone using hostage of it’s own people as a human shield while firing at you? How long can you keep dodging the bullets ( we have waited 8 years ).
    You are calling us terrorists, During the holocaust none of the ~6 million Jewish being slaughtered committed mass murder equipping him-self with explosives and setting off in a middle of a German crowd nor they have used human shields while uprising the Nazis’, today extremist Muslims turn into human bomb in the name of Allah, Schools of Hamas Hezbollah, … in Gaza, Kabriha(South Lebanon) and other places are brain washing small kids that it is good to die for Allah, and this is not only in relation to Israel, the same tactics were taken by Muslim extremists against Russians during the 1st Chechnya war.
    You are asking what city is that which Saddam used chemical weapons on? Well, on March the 16th 1988 he used chemical weapons on the Kurds at Halabja in northern Iraq, there were 80,000 Iraqi citizens there, not 130,000 as I have previously said, sorry for the mistake.
    You are saying that Hamas was formally elected by the Palestinian community, well, yes, it was elected and after elections ‘killed’ all of it’s opposing parties, until today lucky Fattah members not killed ( some of them were thrown of building roofs ) by Hamas are still in prison just for thinking differently.
    Stalin was also formally elected by Soviets, does this mean it’s ok for him to kill and exile more than 20 Million Soviet citizens during his regime?
    You are speaking in the name of the Palestinians, have you asked your-self what the ‘Palestinians’ are? Well, Until the formation of the state of Israel there were no ‘Palestinians’ at all, until the Oslo agreement the term ‘Palestinians’ was not recognized by the national community.
    Let me enlighten you with some background on the Palestinian Israeli conflict, you may say it has started few hundred of years ago during the ottoman mandate were most of the middle east was ottoman, the ottomans have started registering ownership of lands, during the ottoman regime ( which has lasted ~400 years ), Wealthy Europeans ( called Lords at that era ) have bought these lands, These ‘Lords’ were leasing their lands to the Native Arabs, the lease annual payment was ~10% of the corps made on that land, on the end of the 1st world war ~1917 British and French has occupied the region, British were controlling Egypt, Jordan and I think also Lebanon and French were controlling Syria, this era was called the British mandate, British didn’t change the ottoman land registrations, during the British Mandate Lands previously own by Europeans were purchased by Zionists Jews, especially after world war II, British are those who drew the boarders of the middle eastern countries ( Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, AND Israel ).
    In 1947 the United Nations approved the partition of Palestine into two states, one Jewish and one Arab. On 1948 the state of Israel declared independence followed by a war waged by the neighboring Arab countries not accepting the declaration, before waging the war the Arabs have asked the Arab ‘Palestinians’ to get away until they will crash the Jewish state, they didn’t expect to lose the war and their lands.

    Having the above said, The state of Israel was legally formed and accepted by the national community, as far as I am concerned Israel should oppose anyone threatening it’s existence such as what it is doing right now in Gaza, I believe that if Israel was formed at Europe, US, or any other place with western culture we wouldn’t have so many wars, Unfortunately in the middle east you must live by your sword, luckily our sword is sharper.
    I hope that as time goes and our neighbors get higher education they will be able to see what is true and what is a lie, then we will have peace for sure.
    I hope that Radical Islamists will get wiped out of Gaza and finally Palestinians will have a state.

  6. One picture is worth thousand words, please see the following:

    Introduction (PLEASE SEE):

    Sderot, 8 years of dodging bullets:

    You say Hamas is no Terror organisation, You say this is no Jihaad, check out Hammas children TV:




    there are more, much more…

    Jihaad:

    The god father:

    Having the above in mind please see the following:

    The difference between Extremists and no extrimits muslims:

    A different point of view:

    The only way the conflict can be resolved:

    You are talking about Israeli Propaganda, try to LISTEN to what Israelis are saying AND NOT ONLY TO HEAR IT.

  7. Let us pray for the safety of Palestinian civilians who held hostages by Hamas and the safety of Israeli soldiers. May this campaign end swiftly and may Hamas be annihilated. May moderate Muslims emerge victorious in the struggle for Gaza!

    http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/01/israel-invades-gaza-in-attempt-to.html

    • Let´s pray that those who where murdered gets JUSTICE and ISRAEL always will be shamed and
      punished!
      Let´s pray that those Israelis and their supporters that are hostage to fear, militarism and Zionism
      will one day disappear as EVIL will and can not win.
      May the Palestinians stay strong and we with them as they fight for everybodies right to live free but also
      live in their fathers country; Palestine!

      May the GOOD forces in the world emerge victorious and those who JUSTIFY this war always be
      shamed and isolated as the true murders they are!

  8. BRIEF FACTS ON THE ISRAELI CONFLICT TODAY…. ( It takes just 1.5 minutes to read!!!! )
    It makes sense and it’s not slanted. Jew and non-Jew — it doesn’t matter.
    1. Nationhood and Jerusalem. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, Two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
    2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
    3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
    4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.
    5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
    6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.
    7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
    8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
    9. Arab and Jewish Refugees: in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
    10 The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.
    11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
    12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people’s lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey .
    13. The Arab-Israeli Conflict: the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
    14. The PLO’s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.
    15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
    16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.
    17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.
    18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.
    19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.
    20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
    These are incredible times. We have to ask what our role should be. What will we tell our grandchildren about we did when there was a turning point in Jewish destiny, an opportunity to make a difference?

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